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DENIED Unfairly Banned for starting fresh???

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TRADING CARD CYBORG

I'm New Here
Name When Banned: Trading Card Cyborg/Hole Of Air
Steam ID:
Game: TF2
Server: Darkly trade_rawr v1
Ban Reason: For being the alt acc. for a banned player

State your case:
My original account was banned a year ago. I couldn't find the original post, and if someone could, please post the link in the comments. Anyway, basically I had advertised that I was going to do a raffle on a random unspecified server, and to add me as a friend and nothing else if they were possibly interested. Then a admin, told me to stop, I stopped, then I asked why, they explained, then me being stupid, told him that he could have told me in a nicer way.

Anyway, I was wrong at the time, as he was just doing his job, and rather it was me not properly hearing his explanation. So I did what most people would do, and appealed, but the admin didn't believe I was being sincere with my apology and said I would remain banned for now and to re-appeal 6 whole months later.

I'm primarily a trader, and darkly was one of the very very few places left without chaos, so they were where I usually played. I essentially only played TF2 because of the awesome darkly servers. So I talked to a few close mods who were friends and they told me I was allowed to create another account and start fresh since I was originally banned over a dispute, not something like scamming or hacking.

So I did, and I didn't run into any problems for the next year* as I continued happily trading, making friends and everything else darkly had to offer. Today, I was on a server, trading as normal, and suddenly I was banned for simply being an alt of an banned account. I was in no way hiding this as it was clearly stated in my profile. I have been compliant to all the rules on this account for over an year, and I don't see a reason for a ban on this account. I have even apologized to the admin I was rude to on my old account.

I really hope we can get this sorted out as I love to play on the darkly servers and seeing as I was able to follow all the rules on this account for an extended period of time, can at least be unbanned on this account. Thank you so much for your time as I know this was a long read.

*(except a small incident regarding me adding (MOD) in front of my named on another server and forgetting to change it when I switched servers, but that's an isolated incident that's already been dealt with)
 

zackychuu

TD Admin / Wanker
New account or not you are the original person that committed the crime and received the ban.
When you are banned from Darkly, you are banned for a reason. We do not want you playing on the servers again under any alias.
Circumventing a ban just so that you can use our servers again is a bannable offense.

In order to play on our servers again you must appeal your original ban instead of creating a new account.


Plain and simple.
You as a person were the one banned, not your account.
 

TRADING CARD CYBORG

I'm New Here
But I didn't do anything wrong on this account. If you think about it, I only got banned because I was transparent about me being an alt. By punishing players who haven't done anything wrong or broken any rules on their alt, you aren't really preventing alts, just causing people to lie about having them. Is there anyway you could reconsider the ban? For the past year, I have been very compliant to the rules, even helping sometimes by saying some instructions on the mic, that mods or admins without a mics are saying in the chat.
 

zackychuu

TD Admin / Wanker
So you're saying that if someone is tagged as a Scammer on SteamRep, they should be allowed to create a whole new account and circumvent the ban with no consequences?
The fact is that you broke the rules and got banned. You as a person are still banned, no matter what account you use.

you aren't really preventing alts, just causing people to lie about having them.
Which is where IP bans come into play.



Is there anyway you could reconsider the ban?
The only way for your ban to be reconsidered is for you to appeal your original ban on your original account.
Since you already tried that, I'd say it's time you found a new server to play on.
 

TRADING CARD CYBORG

I'm New Here
I didn't reappeal alreadb but the steamrep example was already addressed in my appeal, as I said my original ban was in the grey area and was just a dispute, not something like scamming or hacking which I agree would be unforgivable.
 

Cmp™

Retired Scrub
Sorry, buddy, but making a new account doesn't mean you get a "fresh start."

There's no point in banning accounts if we let people back on with new ones. Your original account was banned and your appeal was denied. Sorry, man, but there's nothing left to discuss here.
 

TRADING CARD CYBORG

I'm New Here
Alright I understand. But since you said I could reappeal my original account 6 months later, and it's been a year, is that still open for me to do?
 

Darkly | Hole Of Air

I'm New Here
I had personally talked to you on steam chat, and you had stated, "while the current appeal being denied is final, you may reappeal in 6 months."
 

Cmp™

Retired Scrub
I didn't say anything like that to you. You have never been on my friends list. You probably have me confused with Locate (though I'm not sure how), but even if Locate did tell you that, it hasn't been 6 months.

And furthermore, any chance you had of being unbanned has been harmed by you circumventing a ban.
 

Wrath

DARKLY Middleman
I had personally talked to you on steam chat, and you had stated, "while the current appeal being denied is final, you may reappeal in 6 months."
Get off of Cmp™'s back, it's Jakk that said that you idiot.

http://darklygaming.com/forum/threads/spy-crab-with-buy-in-darkly-ass-of-hats.11805/
http://darklygaming.com/forum/threads/unban-request-appeal-darkly-hole-of-air.11972/
http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/...ile-of-pibus-tf2-team-fortress-2-items.63412/

You also have an attitude problem with obeying administrators on other communities affiliated with SteamRep.
https://firepoweredgaming.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_0:0:85860811&Submit=
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...dvSearch=&advType=+&cd=10&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us (MCT's SBs are down at the moment, insernt 'Haw, Haw!' from Nelson here.)

hawhawwood.png

You also scammed in another community, who has yet to have their tags.
http://bans.ppm.tf/index.php?p=banl...&advSearch=STEAM_0:0:85860811&advType=steamid

Honestly, the fact you don't have SR and/or DGN Scammer tags is Haw Haw worthy to SR for failing and a big D'oh to @jakksilves for not tagging you. Don't come with with a sob story about how your alt got banned, you just gave the staff even more reason NOT to remove your ban. EVER.
 

Tick Tock Man

Senior TF2 Admin
Staff member
Even with his suspicious behavior, without any attempts or actual losses, I cannot pursue for a scammer tag at this time. His behavior falls under advertising and attempts to lure users away from our servers. Had such buy-ins took place then we would have a case.

However due to the use of our DARKLY tag, he is permanently banned.

http://darklygaming.com/bans/index.php?p=banlist&advSearch=STEAM_0:0:85860811&advType=steamid&Submit
http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/...ile-of-pibus-tf2-team-fortress-2-items.63412/

(Sad that the last person who replied in that thread failed to make a proper report...)

I think we are done here.
 
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